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Alisa Kennedy Jones's avatar

I tried both the estrogen pill and the patch, and they worked to a degree to stop the lady garden symptoms, BUT I still felt snarky and irritable. Heather got me to try the ice cream strategy since I am a super sensor with meds... so, the lowest dose of progesterone is the cone, estrogen gel that I can control dose on is the ice cream, and a tiny dose of testosterone is the sprinkles. So I'm future-proofing my person, but at a rate my metabolic system can handle??? I just think everyone is so bespoke, which is why midlife women deserve state-of-the-art healthcare covered for all the solutions. xoxo

Kim Druker Stockwell's avatar

I have not heard of the Ice cream approach! But I am going to look into that...do I need to if I generally feel fine?

Everyone is bespoke but my one message would be, like you are, ask your doc about the options...a friend the other day said her doctor hadn't mentioned any of it so she figured it wasn't for her...but no, the GPs are not attuned to this unless pushed.

Meg Oolders's avatar

I'm on the patch and take oral progesterone daily. I was suffering from insomnia, mood swings, brain fog, wacky periods, hair loss ... what else🤔😂. I was also suffering from a lot of anxiety. The HRT helped with many of my symptoms, but things really started to turn around for me, whole person wise, when I went on anti anxiety meds. It's hard to know if I could have managed without HRT if I got my mental health on track first... Because stress and anxiety can really do a number on us physically and hormonally ... but I'm feeling better now than I have in a long time thanks to using both in combination. The only pesky problem that remains are my wacky irregular cycles. ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

Kim Druker Stockwell's avatar

This is so true! I am on a small amount of Lexipro and that seemed to help with my main issue: rage. Not saying I’m fixed but I am a lot happier and feel more at ease and that is as important as my eye sight…Good for you, Meg…wait to take care of yourself!

Francesca Bossert's avatar

I take a pill called Femoston-Conti that is both estrogen and progesterone, I’ve been on it for decades (!) and it helped my hot flashes back in the day. But I would love to speak to someone like Heather about other very annoying symptoms. My gynecologist is nice but not very pro-active or particularly helpful beyond the basics. I’m 64 and live in Switzerland.

Kim Druker Stockwell's avatar

I'd DM Heather here on Substack!

As for docs and dealing with Meno-women, they are't all created equal...I find either they ignore everything completely or they say "what would you like to do?" and honestly, I am not a doctor and don't want to play one! Good luck on your search and good for you for being on something that helps you...

Francesca Bossert's avatar

Thanks Kim, I will message her.